It should allow Reflex save to avoid, but SR shouldn't have any effect. It think it could be possible, as long as the necessary source of material (stone) isĢ) in sufficient quantity to "cocoon" the target. The often used spells do specify the effect ( blade barrier, wall of ice, wall of fire, and others do specify the effects on nearby creatures as part of their descriptions so they wouldn't be affected by this clarification). Without that clause the GM is left with no advice about how to rule when a wall of force is created such that it slices through a creature, for example. If the spell doesn't normally allow a saving throw, use the DC the spell would have if it did allow a saving throw." I'm considering adding a rule interpretation that says, "All wall and wall-type spells work as follows unless the spell description says otherwise: Any wall spell cast such that it hinders, damages, encloses, or otherwise affects an unwilling allows the target creature(s) a Reflex save to avoid. What are the possibilities for stone shape?Ĭan it be used to build a "cocoon" around an unwilling target? Does the target receive a Reflex save to avoid? What if the creature had SR? Wall of Stone is really the spell for a character to use to create the cocoon effect. This takes a lot less volume and is available immediately to the caster. Two more common uses of this spell that I have seen are to shape the stone enough to encase the target's feet - thereby immobilizing / grounding the opponent temporarily and using the spell to create manacles to pin a hand or a weapon. Note if the character is not free to react, I would not allow a reflex save. The spell description says no saving throw, my interpretation is that this is referring to the targeted stone object - however, if this were to happen in my game I would allow a reflex save to the targeted character (not the stone) since the character is getting caught in an effect that does not directly target the magic at them (similar to being caught in a rockslide or a cave in see the description in Wall of Stone that is very similar to this application where the save is specifically allowed). Due to this, my interpretation is that Spell Resistance would not apply because the spell is not directly affecting the target character. This spell seems to be more of an "effect" spell where it does not specifically target the affected character. However, it would take a fairly large volume of rock to create the cocoon, so it is unlikely that anything larger than medium size would ever be threatened by this - also note that stone can be broken if it is thin enough, much like wall of stone. In the case of stone shape, if a caster was high enough level to shape enough volume of rock to make the cocoon - then yes.
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